Might have to sell the car...

"BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion" (pbs) 02/24/2015 at 19:50 • Filed to: None

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The last 20 years have been a long and awesome run with my Fiat, but I'm not sure I can afford to maintain it anymore... Hell, with the rising prices of everything in Brazil, I'm not sure I can afford to maintain even myself anymore. I'm not sure what to do right now, selling it will make my life a hell of a lot harder, as I need it and can't afford a new car, or even a decently reliable used car, or even any car at all.

Anyone wants to adopt a low(ish) mileage 1995 Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole?

E. Julius > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 02/24/2015 at 19:54

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Talk to My citroën won't start

davedave1111 > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 02/24/2015 at 19:56

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I wish I could swap you my Camry for it, but transport costs might be an issue. And you drive on the wrong side. But apart from that I'd grab it like a shot :)

But seriously, stick it out, don't sell unless you're forced to. Things'll pick up and then you'll regret having let it go. Anyway, it's hard to find anything much cheaper to run than a classic car you know well.

PS9 > E. Julius 02/24/2015 at 19:57

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But they won't be able to meet up because his Citroen won't start. :(

Funktheduck > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 02/24/2015 at 21:05

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I would if it were possible.

TheStigsBrazilianCousin > davedave1111 02/24/2015 at 23:41

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brazil drives on the right

davedave1111 > TheStigsBrazilianCousin 02/25/2015 at 02:38

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Yes, that's what I said. The wrong side.

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > davedave1111 02/25/2015 at 08:35

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That's true... Selling it won't make a newer car affordable, plus it doesn't pay any fees anymore due to its age, but the mandatory 27% ethanol in Brazilian fuels is eating my engine from the inside. Just now I had to swap in another fuel pump, once again due to corrosion, fuel lines and seals.

Seriously, this country can go fuck itself...

davedave1111 > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 02/25/2015 at 13:27

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Oooh, nasty. Does no-one make ethanol-resistant ones yet? I guess maybe not for an old Tipo :/

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > davedave1111 02/25/2015 at 20:28

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I looked far and wide, but since this car was never manufactured in Brazil, ceased production before the percentage of ethanol started escalating, and the same never happened in Italy, I couldn't find any that fit. Less knowledgeable people told me to look for parts for the Tempra 16v engine instead, but that unit was actually manufactured in Argentina and doesn't share many parts with the italian made Lancia engine. For example, if the counterbalance crank seals start leaking, I'm shit out of luck, as the Tempra engine never had those counterbalance cranks...

davedave1111 > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 02/25/2015 at 21:55

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What a shame. Is it direct corrosion/perishing from the ethanol, or is it because the ethanol absorbs water from the atmosphere?

BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion > davedave1111 02/25/2015 at 22:57

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It's because of the water really. Since theh cranked up to 25% ethanol a while ago, I had to swap two fuel pumps due to corrosion, as the watery mess sinks to the bottom of the fuel tank, staying in contact with the pickup. Also, because the water/ethanol mix is the first to run through when you crank the engine, I've also had repeated stances of seal and O ring damage...

jkm7680 > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 02/26/2015 at 11:20

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Noooo keep it!

davedave1111 > BlazinAce - Doctor of Internal Combustion 02/26/2015 at 13:02

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Is it very humid in your part of Brazil? That can't help. Does it help to try and keep the tank mostly empty, so there's less fuel to absorb water, or does that just give what remains more surface area?

You'd think there ought to be some kind of additive to prevent the separation, but all I saw from a quick Google looks like snake-oil.

"as the watery mess sinks to the bottom of the fuel tank, staying in contact with the pickup. Also, because the water/ethanol mix is the first to run through when you crank the engine"

Would it help to install something in the tank to mix the contents thoroughly before starting the engine?